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Mucv-nettv hvtvm nettv hę̄ren punpvlhoyen.
Today we have been given a good day.
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Jerry Haney yv hocefkvt owen.
Jerry Haney is his name.
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Pun Semvnole etvlwv em mēkko owvnks, hofonosekvnkē.
He was our Seminole Nation chief, not very long ago.
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Mvn em punayvhanet owi[s].
I am going to talk to him.
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Nak em vpohin,
I am going to ask him questions,
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’ste-cate ’punvkv ’tenpunahoyvhant owē[s].
and we are going to talk together in our language.
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Naken cehocefetv kerriseks cē! Mēkko?
I don’t even know what to call you! Chief?
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Mvn cvkihocis owet owē[s], hvtą.
That’s all they call me.
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Mēkko kict vrakkueckv em ocēt owetvt owet,
We call you chief out of respect.
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Jerry hocefin owat, mvo herekot ont owisen.
If I call you Jerry, that wouldn’t be nice either.
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Mvn mēkko kicvhanvyat tvlkēs.
So I should say Chief.
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Heyv cemvnettof mv ’stvmin aret ’ceculvtēt owa?
When you were younger, where did you grow up?
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Yv, yv omvlkv kihcvkē tis, yv
Here, all around here, is what I would say.
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yv etvlwv, Semvnole Etvlwv enkvsvppof fvccv hopvyus-mahat mvn akfult owak hiyowat.
This nation, we are at the northernmost part of Seminole Nation now.
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Mvn Hecetvlke mvt owvtēt ont on.
That’s where the Hitchiti people were.
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Mvn vpvkēt yv mahen vcak-vcult owimvts, mēkusvpkv-cukon vpakat.
I was with them and that’s where I grew up, in the church.
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Hecete?
Hitchiti?
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Hecete, Hecete kicaket.
Hitchiti, they call it Hitchiti.
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Hiyowat tat Semvnole Hecete kicakēt ont on.
Now they call it Seminole Hitchiti.
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Mowisen hvtecę̄skuse vlicēcakat, mēkusvpkv-cuko vculēt owētat o[s].
But when they first started the church, it’s a really old church.
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Em vculkv cukpe hvmkē cahkepohkakē oh-vpvkēt owēs.
It’s age is over one hundred and five.
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Mowisen hvtecę̄skuse vlicēcvyat kvsvppof fvccvn vlicēcvtēt ont on.
But when it first started, it started up north.
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Mv vlicēcat erkenvkv Thomas Little kihocēn arvtēs.
When it started, the preacher they said was Thomas Little.
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Mvt mēkusvpkv-cuko
That church
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Ohkalvlke em mēkusvpkv-cukot on ’svlicehcen
was a Methodist church, and he started it,
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mvn hocefkv tat omēcicēn, Thomas Little,
and because of his name, Thomas Little,
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Ohkalvlke em mēkusvpkv-cukon kicaket hocefakvtēt ont on.
that’s why they named it a Methodist church.
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Ąyen 1920 mahen orof, yvn hvtą acuneckak[e]t owvtēs.
Then, about 1920, they moved over here.
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Mēkusvpkv mucvsēn, cuko mucvsēn hahyet,
They built a new church,
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vlicēcakat
and when they were starting,
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hvpo tis vlicēcahket,
they started the camps,
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orę̄n sulkēt hvpo pale hvnkē cahkepohkaken vtēken, ’mvtēken.
there were a lot of camps here and there, probably about fifteen.
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Sulkēt owvtt owv?
There were a lot of them?
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Mowēt. ’Ste sulkēt fullaket owemvts.
There were. There were a lot of people that came.
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Tvcakocuse rakko tis oren owat, ǫret owemvts cē!
When [fourth] Saturday meeting came, there were so many!
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Este fullakat mvn cvrk-vcule mvo erkenvkvt owemvtok.
People that came, my dad was also a preacher then.
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Mvn mv owēcicēn yvn vcak-vculet owemvts.
For that reason I grew up here.
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Mvt cerke hocefkv, Willy?
Your dad’s name was Willy?
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Willy. Willy Haney?
Willy. Willy Haney?
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Willy Haney. Hocefkvt owemvte? Ehe.
Willy Haney. That was his name? Yes.
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Hofone erkenaket arvtēt onkv.
He was a longtime preacher.
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Yv mēkusvpkv-cuko yv tv̨lkusat.
Just at this church.
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Erkenvkvlket yv ossicvtē orēn sulkēt owē[s].
Several preachers came out of here.
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Pum estvlket, Hinvlke kiceyat,
Our people, the Haneys we say,
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cvrvhvlket on, Sam, Sam Haney, Woodrow Haney.
my older brothers Sam, Sam Haney, Woodrow Haney.
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Hvtą Welyvmse Haney. Hvtą em ’puetake mvo. Vernon Haney.
Then, William Haney. Then his children too. Vernon Haney.
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Pucuswvn kicaket owemvts. ’Ste-cate enhocefkvt.
They used to call him Axe. His Seminole name.
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Hvtą, Norman yvo Cepan Rakko.
Then Norman too, Big boy.
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Mvo omvlkvt erkenvkv hakaket owemvts.
All of those became preachers.
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Hvpo takliceyat, punt vhvmkvtkvt hvnket hvnket [ow]et owemvts.
Our camp, our number was one.
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’Svhokkolen owat mv Alvke Lane enhvpot mv ’svhokkolat owen,
The second one was Alex Larney’s camp, that one was second,
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tuccēnat Cemse Tifvs owet mowet on ąyen rasvfvlotkvtēt owēs.
the third was Jimsey Davis’s, and they continued all around [the church].
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Monkv Pete Miller yvo erkenvkv hakt owemvts.
And Pete Miller also became a preacher.
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Heles-hayvt ont owisen,
He was a medicine man, though,
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’Ste-cate owat heles-hayv,
a Seminole medicine man,
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mowisen, erkenvkv hahket vrę̄tt somkētt owemvts.
but he became a preacher, then he later passed away.
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Ohhvtvlakat yv Bud Little mv Thomas Little kicat vyēcicat owētok mvo.
Furthermore, Bud Little of that Thomas Little family, too.
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Vcuwusēt owē witisen,
It might have been further on, but
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Tom– Bud Little erkenvkv hahket, hvtą,
Tom– Bud Little became a preacher, then
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ervhv Walt Little mvo
his older brother Walt Little also
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erkenvkv hahken,
became a preacher,
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hvtą Jimboy Yeager mvo erkenvkv hahken, kērrvken omvlkvn.
then Jimboy Yeager became a preacher too, I knew all of them.
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Yvn rasvfvlotkat
Around ́[the church] on this side,
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Edmond Larney hvtą akliket owemvts.
was where Edmond Larney lived.
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Mvn mvo erkenvkv hakvtēt ont on.
He too became a preacher.
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Hvtą yvn Sam Ripley hvpo yv mahen aklikt owemvts.
Then, Sam Ripley’s camp was right over there.
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Mvo erkenvkv hahket.
He became a preacher too.
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Mv cerket mvt ohliketv-ohlikv hakemvts kicetskat, mv.
Your dad became the pastor of Hitchiti, you said.
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Hecete Hecetvlke kihocat onkv, Hecete em punvkv ’punayēt owemvte?
He was Hitchiti, did he speak the Hitchiti language?
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Mv tv̨lkusen emvnettat ’punayvtēt owisen,
That’s all he spoke when he was younger,
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cvcke mv tat Maskokvlket ont on vpakvtēt ont on.
but my mom was Muskogee and they got together.
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’Puetake owisen nvcowen owvtēt owis kerrvkot owisen,
But the children, I don’t know how many they had,
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lopuckusis somēcvtēt ont on,
some passed away when they were small,
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omvlkat nvcowet owet ont owisen kerrvkot os.
so I don’t know how many there were all together.
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Vnvcome-mahēt owēs.
There were quite a few.
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Hecetvlke mvt onkv,
He was Hitchiti,
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mvtvlkusen ’punayvtēt owisen.
so he only spoke Hitchiti.
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Hiyowat tat ’ste Maskoke em punvkvn mvn ’punayvkēt onkv,
But now, we speak the Maskoke language,
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mvn ’punayet aren.
that’s what he was speaking.
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Mowisen mvn somkehpof
Then after he passed away,
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mvtvlkuset ’punayvtē somkēp’n owat
he was the only speaker, if he passes away,
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mvt, mvt ot os mahoke mv tat.
they said that would be the end of it.
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Mv, em punvkv estowusat isenkērretskemvte?
Did you learn a little bit of the language from him?
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No, keriyvkos ’stowēt.
No, I wouldn’t even know how.
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Mowisen, vsi Kvn-Fvske ak-vpokat
But those that live in Florida,
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Mekusokvlke em punvkv mv ētvpumusēt owēs makakvnks.
the Miccosukee language is the same, they said.
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Mvn makaket vm onvyakvnk[s]
That’s what they told me,
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Mvn ’punvyvkot kerrvkot mowis.
But since I don’t speak it, I don’t know.
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Hiyowat tat…
But now…
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Mowisen mv cecke, mvt Mvskokvlk ’punayekv?
So your mother spoke Muskogee?
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Mv min isenkerrēpvt hą? Mv ise-, yeah.
So did he learn from her? From her, yeah.
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Mv mvtēkusen ’punahoyekv, mvn kerrēpvtēs.
That’s all they spoke, so he learned.
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Omvlkeyat mvtvlkus ’punayet onkv.
That’s all we speak.
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Yvhiketv tis owakat.
Like the songs too.
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Hēre-mahat tises, uh-huh.
That’s very good, uh-huh.
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Hvtvm vpohkv cenhayvhanvyat,
Another question I have for you,
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nanvke kvlafet, onkat eto owis kvlafet onkat cvto tis hahiceccet owv?
do you carve things, carve wood or stone and make things?
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Hahicet owvyvnkisen,
I was making things,
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hvse hvmkat hoyanet os.
but a month has gone by.
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Hiyowat cvnokkēt hompvkot tayēs cvhahken.
Now I’ve gotten sick and can’t eat.
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Nak stowat kerrvkot ont os owisen.
I don’t know what happened.
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Heles-hayvn rahehcin.
But I went to see a doctor.
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Heleswvn vmaken,
They gave me medicine
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hiyowat heleswvn hompin hiyowat oret owisen.
and I’ve been taking medicine until now.
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Vm vnicet, hę̄ren vm vnicekot ont owisen,
It’s helping me, or maybe not helping me much,
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vm vnihcvhanis ont owis kont owi[s].
but maybe it is going to help me, I hope.
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Mowisen mowet cvnokiket vlicēcvyof,
But when I started to get sick,
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nak
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eto, eto warkē kicvkis ont os.
cut wood, I guess you would say.
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Mvn mēcit owvyvnkat ēwikētt owvyvnks.
I used to do that, but I just gave it up.
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Hvtą nake te?
Then, what is it?
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Eto…
Wood…
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’ste-hvtke tat “power tools” kicet ont os.
White people say “power tools”.
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Slafkv… slafkv em vyēcicat tat orēn lvpkēn kowetsken owat,
The blades move very quickly if you want,
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orēn waret on mvt on
it really cuts
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hvtą mv eto warkat
and the wood that was being cut
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hesakvyat.. ’tvn hesakēpin,
when I breathed it in, where I was breathing,
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cvna ofvn hvtą
inside my body
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hesakvyat, cvnan vnokkicis owēs kont, vkerricit
when I breathed, I thought it might be hurting my body,
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mohwen hvtą ēvkerrict owvhanitok wikvyvtet.
and I thought about that myself and probably needed to quit
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Eto warvyat wik’t owvyvnks, ’stowusat.
I stopped cutting wood, a little while.
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Hvtą em mokkē vwikat mv hvtą tenēpē hayet mēcetskat mvn
A little bit of that dust that is thrown out when you’re smoothing it,
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hvtą mvo ’ste mēcē witvtēs.
and that too might affect someone.
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Mowisen orēn herēn wart ’svrēpit owvnkan, vnhę̄rē owēt mēcet ’sarit owvnkisen. Nak,
But when I felt better I was able to cut better and enjoyed doing that.
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nak-wikv hayakēt este ’mvrēpvyat orēn ’stowusat wiyēpit ont on.
I would go to those craft sales and sell a little of my stuff.
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Vnhę̄ret ont on.
I felt good about it.
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Cukopericet kowat orēn esten ’stvmin vpēyet ont owē estowis.
I wanted to visit with people wherever they would be going.
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Este hecvkvkat hofone hvtą vnyicēt ont on.
People that I hadn’t seen in a long time would come over to me.
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Vnherēt arit owemvtis,
I enoyed going around,
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hiyowat tat cvnokkehpet omofvn,
but now after I became sickly,
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naken estowvyonkot owēs, hiyowat.
I don’t do much of anything now.
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Ē taklikvyēt, ē takwakkat tvlkēs.
I just stay at home and lay around.
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Owisen mvn cemvnettē nvcowa cemvnettetv nvcowicat mahen mvn
But when you were younger about how old were you when you started
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eto kvlafet onkat nak hahic[e]tv vlicēcetskemvte?
carving and making things?
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Vcvculēt owemvts cē!
I was older!
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Mowvke nak-omvlkv vtotketv respoyehpit,
When I would finish working on things,
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nake ētv vnfvccekon owat,
if my idea wasn’t right,
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nake estowetv cvyacen owat mēcēpit owē[s].
whatever I wanted to do, I would do it.
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Eto wart, eto kvlafit–cem etektvnkē omof, cem etektvnkē hakofvn.
I would cut wood, carve wood–when you had time, when you actually had time.
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Mv hvnke cencukoperickv fulleyvnkē mv,
That one time we visited you at your house,
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cem pvlse vfaccimvts maketsken,
you told us how you met your wife,
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mv vkerrickv punlicetskvnkt on.
you put that thought in our minds.
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Hoktvlēt ekv ’swvnvkv ’swvnvyēt yvn oketskē witvtēs.
You might have been talking about the elderly woman who had the head scarf wrapped around her head.
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Yv mēkusvpkv-cuko tak-aret owat,
She was here at this church
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“Puhehcet iepohhatet [ow]emvts” maketsken.
and you said, “She saw us and came walking toward us.”
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Naken cekicemvte? Vpelickv.
What did she say to you? Something to laugh about.
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Vm pvlset ’monayvtē onayē monket owēs. Hiyowe estowis. Estowis,
My wife still tells what she told her. Now and wherever.
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hofonēn ’tepaket welvkēt onkv.
We’ve been together for a long time.
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Hokkoleyat yv mahen putak-vculet owemvts.
Both of us grew up near here.
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Yv fvccvn likēt ont on, yv fvccvn likin.
She lived this way and I lived this way.
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Mowisen mēkusvpkv-cuko yvn
So at this church,
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vteloken owat, vlaket owemvts.
when they would have meetings, she would come.
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Mvhakv-cuko ’tepaket welvkēpēt onkv mvn ’monayin,
We would go to school together and I would tell her,
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ahten, yv mēkusvpkv-cuko enfettvn,
and she would come. This church yard,
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let’s see, tak-yvkapt vthoyēn,
let’s see, we were walking along,
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hoktalēt arēt owemvts.
and there was an elderly lady.
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Tokv Tifvs kicē hocefkvt on.
Toga Davis was her name.
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Tokv Tifvs? Ehe. O, ehe. Mv hoktąlusēt on.
Toga Davis? Yeah. Oh, yeah. She was elderly.
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Vm punayemvts.
She spoke to me.
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“Jerry!” makt cvkict on.
“Jerry!” she said to me.
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“Ahtvs!” makt on.
“Come here!” she said.
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Ē kērrvyvnk hiyowat em punvkv tis yekcēt ont on.
Now I just knew with her strong voice,
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“Orēn cvhvnvhant owvcoks” kont, ’stonhkotok.
“She’s really going to scold me!” but there was nothing to be done.
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Oh-ayvyvnks. Oh-vhoyēn mv,
I went to her. We were going toward her,
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ena-hvtke hoktē onkv mvo, naken makt okhoyat kerrekot owisen,
and since she’s a white girl, she didn’t know what she was saying,
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vm onayemvts mv ’ste-cate hoktēt okat,
but the Indian woman told me,
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“Jerry,
“Jerry,
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mv este-hvtke hoktēn vpaketsken owat,
if you marry that white girl,
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ǫrēn cetotkicvkvrēs cē!” cvkicemvts.
they will really work you hard!” she told me.
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Mv naken okhoyvtētok orēn vcvpahoken vcvcolet owvnks.
By what she told us, she has really stuck with me and we have grown old together.
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Owis ’stowesekon likepetskēt on hēcvyvnkes (ehe) owis.
But it was all right, because I have seen that you live nicely. Yes.
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Hvtą lvputke este hę̄ret owvhanat mvo icem vnicen cemowet owvtētok.
And she was a truthful, good person to help you and it happened for you.
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Mēkko tis cehaket,
When you became chief,
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icepaket emonket owet on hēcvyat ’svcafvckēt owvnks.
I saw that she was still with you and supportive of you, and I was happy for the both of you.
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Vneu
Me too.
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Mēkusvpkv-cuko arvyat mv omēcicēn omvtēs kont vkerricit owēs. Mowē.
It’s because I have always gone to church, I think. It is.
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Mēkko cvhake owen, hahken,
When I became the chief,
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hofonēn likt owvyvnks.
I was there for a long time.
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’Stit mowvtēke likvt[ē]sekon.
No one has ever served that long.
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Cukpe hokkolen,
Two hundred [meant to say twelve years],
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no cukpe tuccēnen hoyanēn lik’t owvyvnks.
no, more than three hundred [meant to say thirteen years] is how long I served.
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Mowisen ēti tat mowvtēkes hvmkusen
But others, [their terms] have only been about one,
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ohrolopē osten mv mahen oren owaten,
when it gets to be about four years,
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ē enhorrahket vpēyēpet onkv.
others just get lazy and leave.
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Mowis vntat vlikin, vlikin, vlikin.
But myself, I stayed and stayed and stayed.
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Hvtą osset owimvts.
Then I went out.
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Vtotketv tat hērt owisen, orēt owemvts cē!
The work was good, but it was stressful!
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Mowisen mowē erkenvkv vpvkakat vcvculvtēt onkv.
But I grew up with the preachers.
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Mēkusvpkvn kę̄rrusvyēt onkv.
I knew how to pray.
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’Sēvnicet.
Helping yourself.
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Mv, mvt omēcicēn yekcetv, yekcetv vnhēcken huerin hoyanet owemvts.
Because of that, I have stayed strong and received added strength through that.
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Mv cem vculkv pale-hvmken cenvpohkaken oricetskat,
Your age, when you turned eighteen,
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mvn este-honvnwv owēpeccekv.
you became a man.
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Mv suletawv owat, Wvcenv cenhuehket owemvte?
Regarding the military, did the United States draft you?
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No, vnhuehkvkeko monken ayit owemvts.
No, before they drafted me, I went on my own.
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O, cēme tat ohsahtet ēohsahtet?
Oh, you signed it, signed yourself up?
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Mowisen vnhuehkvkvhanet owat kērrvyvnks. Nake te?
But I knew they were going to draft me. What is it?
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“draft” kicakat
what they call “draft”,
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mv min ocvkēt monket owemvts.
they still had it then.
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Hiyowat, ocvkekot ont os.
They don’t have it now.
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Volunteer service kicaken ont on, hiyowat.
Now, they say volunteer service.
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Mowisen ’stonkon
But it was okay,
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vtotketv tis vnpokēpen mvhakv-cuko arvyvtē mvo respoyehpin.
my job had ended, I went to school and finished that too.
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Nake ētv vm vhoskat ocekot.
I didn’t have any choice left.
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’Stonhkotok hiyowat suletawv ahyet.
With no other options at that time, I went to join the service.
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Mvn respoyēpen owat, mvt vnhervrēs kont.
If I could finish that, I felt that it would be good for me.
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Mvn vkerrihcit, ’stvcak-ayet owimvts.
I thought about that, and I went with them.
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Hvtecę̄skuse ohcēyvyat
When I first joined in,
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yvn
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perro-tvmkv astaskv hakeccen owat,
they told me if you became a paratrooper,
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toknawv rąkkusen cenheckēs cvkicaket vm onayaken
you can make a little more money,
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ē vnherētvnks mvtēkusat estonhkotok mvn ’stvpahkin.
and made me realize that I really liked it and it was all right and I joined them.
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Cvmvnę̄ttusē monken
I was still quite young
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perro-tvmkv astasketv vlicehcit.
when I began jumping out of airplanes.
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Vcvcolat ayē monken ohrolopē
As I was getting older,
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pale-tuccenat orvhanat mahen vpakit astasket aret wik’t owemvts.
when I was about thirty years old, I quit.
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Mowisen respoyēpat owen
But my time was up,
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hiyowat tat ’stowusat avnfēhoken vrēpit ont os.
now they pay me a little, and that’s how I get by.
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Mvn vnherē owēt.
And I’m okay with it.
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Mv ’sētekkekv hayetskvtē mv yv,
That cane you made,
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suletawv vrahkv vpakē emhoyvtē mvn ocēt ont ont.
and he has on the honors he was given in the service.
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Yvo hocefkv ’svlikat mvt owv?
This too, his name that’s on here, is that what it is?
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Ehe, cvhocefkvts.
Yes, that is my name.
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Hocefkv ’svlikēn yvo
His name is here too,
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vhahvkēn ont ok.
they are made for that.
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Mv perro-tvmkv astaskvtē
For the Airborne badge,
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onkat perro-tvmkv astasketv
so that’s the Airborne badge,
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suletawv mv vrahkv mvn vpakvtēt ont ok.
for when he joined that division.
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Owen mvts emhoyvtē mv
That’s what they gave him
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em vretv hvtą estowē mowē arvtē eskērkv emhoyvtē mvn ocēt ont ont ok.
those that he has on are in recognition of his participation in that division of service.
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Hvtą yv mahe mvo eskerkēt
And these that are pinned on him,
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yekcetv ocakat maken ’sēvcakhēcēt os.
show that he served in a certain unit.
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Yv Wvcenv Mēkko,
The President of the United States,
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Wasentv likat
who lives in Washington,
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mvn vyvhant oncces cvkihocen.
they told me that that’s where I was going to go.
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Five Civilized Tribes kicat fulleyat ohliketv-ohlikvn cvhayakvtēt ont on mvn.
The Five Civilized Tribes made me the chairman of their group.
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Ohliketv-ohlikvn arvyofvn,
When I was the chairman,
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mvn “Wvcenv Mēkkon rahecvn os” cvkihohcen, vyvkhvmkus owen ahyin.
all of a sudden they told me to go see the President of the United States, and I went.
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George Bush vculus-mahat oki[s]
The older George Bush is who I mean.
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Mvn hę̄ren ’tem punahoyet,
We had a good talk together,
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Cuko Hvtke kicakat,
at the White House, as they say,
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encuko ofvn ’tem punahoyę̄tt kakeyvnks,
We sat inside and spoke together,
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yv nak owat suletawv vpakvtē.
about the military service he was in.
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Ocepvyet onkv, mvn vnhēct ont, mvo suletawv arvtē.
He saw my badges that I had, he too was a service man.
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Perro-tvmkv ’svtohket arvtēt onkv, mowen so monkv,
He was a pilot, so
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orēn hę̄ren suletawv ohfvccv tat hę̄ren ’tem punahoyemvts. Mvn…
we had a good conversation about the military service.
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’Terakkuecēt, ’terakkuece-mahe ’tem ocet.
Respect for each other, you both had great respect for one another.
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Mv tat orēn este hę̄ret on kont vkerricvyēt owēs.
He is a good man, that’s what I think of him.
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Hesake monkvt onkv, vcųlus hakētt owisen.
He’s still living, but he has become much older.
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Mowe mv Wvcenv etvlwvt on hvtą Semvnole em etvlwv hvtą yv
The United States military and the Seminole Nation
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ēkvnv avpvkakusat heyv vpokeyat etvlwv,
and other nations here that are part of where we live,
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mv estvcako onkat mv vrahkv,
the government or those
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apefatket onkat mēkko tis haket onkat Wvcenv mēkko tis onkat hvtą
departments that are a part of it, they all run for president, chief,
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tvlofv enfayatv monkat etvlwv avpvkakusat.
or mayor.
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Nake te? Enfvyatv kict okhoyēt os kowvyi[s].
What is it? Officials, I think they say.
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Enhomahtv owe witēs.
Maybe leaders.
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Mowē hahihocat, centv?
Those that become that, how about you?
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’Stowēt aret cemvlostē hakemvtē?
How did you become interested in it?
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Mv mēkko haketv onkat hvtą
In becoming a chief or
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mv etohkvlkvlke tis avpvkaket kowēt aretskvtē tis owētok,
the leader of your group,
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’stowēt cemvlostē hakemvtē?
how did you become interested?
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Onkat estowēt aret mv.
Or how did you go about?
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Nak
Things
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’stowe ’ste-catvlke tat
that native people do,
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fullaken owat mvn estvpakit.
I was among them.
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Estowēn vnicvyē tan owat kont arit owemvtisen.
I would wonder how I could help.
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Mowisen mv… Nake te? Naken kic’t okhoya? Color guard kihocat.
But… What is it? What do they say? Color guard, they call them.
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’Svlilēct owimvts.
That’s how I started.
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Back in mid-80s vsi yv fellowship hall likan,
Back in mid-80s, the fellowship hall that’s over there,
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vtelohkēn mowen hvtecę̄skusat
where we gathered the very first time.
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World War II suletawv arvtē ’ste-cate arēt owemvts.
There was a Native World War II veteran.
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Hvfe kihocen, Samsuce Harjo.
They called him Hvfe. Samsochee Harjo.
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Kērris. Yv fvccvn liket onko, likemvts.
I know him. He lives this way, used to live.
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Mowisen mvn “Cvsomken owat suletawvlke ohfvccvn mvn cvhopelhoyvrēs” makt.
But then, “If I pass away, I want to be buried with military honors,” he said.
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Em estvlke ’monvyakvtēt ont on.
That’s what he had told his family.
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Mowen somiken,
So when he did pass away,
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suletawv em mēkkvlke yvo enhuehkakt owisen,
they called the military officers,
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estit vteko tayemvts.
but no one could come.
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Mowat, em estvlket rvm oricemvts.
So his family came over to see me.
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Suletawv vneu hiyowat ’stowusat mv fvccvn ohnekēyit onkv.
They knew that I was also somehow involved with the military.
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“Racvhecahken “Hiyowē pumēcak[hoye]t os” makt on.
They came and saw me, and told me how they were treated.
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Mowis ’stonhkotok, mowan nvkvfitet,
But anyway, we met.
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“Estowēcvkē tayen owat, mēcvkvrēs” kihcin,
I told them, “We can do it however we can to get it done.
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“Omvlkvn estin ’monayetske tayen owat, ’monayeccen,
If you can tell all the people,
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cokv-tvlvme tis vtēhēt mvn nvkvftvhanet owēs” makt.
put it in the newspaper that we are going to have a meeting on this,” I said.
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Nvkvftetv orof, tak-vtelokeyvnk[s] yvn.
When the time came for the meeting, we gathered here.
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Orēn v[nv]comusēt yicen okis cē!
So many came, I mean!
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Hiyowētt os kict.
This is what’s happened.
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Suletawvlke owat?
Those that were veterans?
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Ehe, suletawvlke fullakvtē[s]. Hiyowētt os, hiyowat.
Yeah, the veterans were there. Now this is what’s happened.
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’Stįt pum vniceko tayen.
No one could help us.
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“Pome tat mēcvke tayen owat, mēcvkēs” kict,
“If we can do it ourselves, we would do it,” I said,
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kict “’Monayvks” cvkict, ’svlicēcimvts.
“Tell them,” they told me, and I started [the Honor Guard].
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Accvkeu pome tat, pome tat vlkuset.
Uniforms, too, we provided it ourselves.
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Nehsēt. ’Stit punnesekon.
We bought them. Nobody bought them for us.
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Pome tat accvkē suletawv em accvkē nehset.
We bought the military uniforms.
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Mv ’svlicēceyvtēt ont os.
That’s how we started.
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Hiyowat Semvnole etvlwv tat hiyowe mēcakat hę̄rat hecvkēpekv,
Now, the Seminole Nation saw what they had done was good,
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toknawv ’stowusat ienlicaket owēs, ’sēvnicepvkvkē tayat.
so they donate a little money to them, to assist them.
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Monkv,
So,
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mowvtē vtēkat,
since that time,
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Vpvkit ’sarin, mvn hecvkēpekv,
I was part of [the Guard], and they noticed,
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orēn avm vnict owemvts kowvyat hvtą.
and I really think that’s what helped me.
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Mēkko aletketv kont aletkvyof,
When I was trying to run for chief,
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este mowe arvyat cvhecakekv,
people noticed what I had done,
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este hę̄ret ont os cvkowakvtēs kont okis.
so they must have thought I was a good person, I think.
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Mvn omēcicēt on, hvtą res, res cēyitēt ont os.
Because of that, then again I entered.
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Hvtą ’ste sulke kerreccēt ’svpvkēt
Part of it was that a lot of people knew you,
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hvtą ’ste-cate ’punvkv ’punayetskekv, ’svpvkēt owvtēs. Mvo.
and you knew the Seminole language and you spoke it, and that was part of it, too.
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Hvtą, suletawvlke aretskvtē mvo nak sųlkēt owētok.
Since you were in the military service too, including a lot of other things that you’ve done,
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Este mowe vrakkuehocēt owēn owat, mowēt owēt onkv.
if a person is respected like that, it happens.
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’Stonkon cem vlostaken, epoyēpetskvtēt ont os.
They favored you a lot, and you won.
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Pum Mēkko haket hofonēn likt onccvnkes.
You became our chief and were there for a long time.
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Hiyowē estowisen Color Guard kiceyat fullakē monket owē[s].
Now, we still have what we call the Color Guard.
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Mowēt os. Hiyowat etvlwv omvlkvt sųlkēt ocvkēt on hēcit os.
That’s how it is. Now many of the other nations have it, I notice.
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Hę̄ren ’svlilēcetskvt owvcoks. Sulkēn em vnicak-
You started a good thing. You helped a lot of–
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Hvtecę̄skusē ’ste-cate etvlwv vpokat hvtecę̄skusē ’svlicēceyat
When we first started, it was for the Indians that lived within the nation.
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’svlicehcēt, estvmin punhuehkaken owat,
We started it, and wherever they called on us,
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Cahtvlke tis on owat, Cekvsvlke tis, Maskokvlke tis, punhuehkaken owat,
even if they were Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Creek, if they called us,
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mvt estet sonkētt mahohken,
when we heard of a person that had passed away,
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mvn vpēyen owat mvo ristemvnicēt fullēt owemvts.
we used to go and help them.
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Hiyowat tat, vsi ētis fullakat entvlkus, ēmeu hayakvtēt ont on.
Now, even over there, they do it by themselves, they too formed their own [Color Guard].
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Puntvlkus hvtecę̄skusē ’svlicēceyat puhecvkēpekv, mvo mvtat mēcakvtēt ont os.
When we first started it and they had noticed us, and they started their own as well.
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Mowis hiyowat, hiyowat tat, omvlkvt, ’ste-cate ’stvmin owepē estowisen, ocvkepēt ont os, hiyowat.
But now, at this time, all of them, whichever tribe they are, they now have their own.
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Mvn yvn vlicēcvtēt ont o[s]. Mowes.
This is where we started. It sure is.
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Mvn kę̄rrisekatē[s]. Mowis kerretv hę̄res.
I didn’t know that. But it’s good to know.
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Hiyowat mv hopuetake, onkat ’ste-mvnette hvtą rvhonapsē punahvmkusvlke tis,
Now, kids or young people and their children, our relatives too,
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onkat omvlkv pum etenkerretv em pētake avculaket owvhanat,
or the children of all of the ones that we know,
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naken kerraket owvkvrē kowetsken owat, mv kicvketskē tayv?
as they get older, whatever you think they should learn,
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’sohyekcicet onkat em vcahnet owat mowet kicvketskē tayv?
can you encourage them and tell them?
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Puntat sepvhanekot onkv,
We’re not going to be around,
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mv ohrolopē pale-hokkolen onkat ’senhoyanat tis fohlēkotok.
within twenty years or more, we might not be around.
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Mv ’ste-cate owē fųlleyvtē kerrąkeseko hakētt onkv.
It’s gotten to where they don’t know our ways.
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’Stowēt fullet ’sēvnicaket yv hiyowē opunąyetskat hecvkvt sekot owētok.
How do you think that watching you speak could help them, because they haven’t ever seen it?
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Kerrvkekot owvhanekv.
Those are the ones who won’t know.
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Yeah, vkerricvyat orēn yekcēt owvhanet ont on, vsi akawapkē awat,
Yeah, when I think about it, it’s going to be difficult for those coming up,
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hiyowat tat ’ste-hvtkvlken vpvkvkēpēt owēt onkv,
now they marry into white people, so
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ecatvn [re]te[ohk]vlket. Remhet?
their blood mixes. Becomes thin?
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So, mon owat, ’ste-cate ’punayvkat,
So, when that happens, when we speak Indian,
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vm pētake owan okis mvn, ’punvyvkekot owēs.
I’m referring to my own children, they do not speak it.
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Mowisen, orēn, mvt punyekcvhanet ont os kowit owēs.
But really, it is going to become hard for us, I think.
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’Ste-catvlket oweyat punay- punayvlket owvkat
Those that are native speakers,
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hę̄ren puetake mvhayēskon owat,
we haven’t taught our children well,
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Meksekvlke tat hecaketsken owat,
but when you see the Mexicans,
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encuko ofvn omv̨lkvt mvn ’punvyvkēpet onkv. Omv̨lkvt.
they all speak it in their homes. All of them.
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Kerrvkēt owētok.
They know that.
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Mowis ’punvkv tat mēcēskot ont on,
But if we don’t use the language,
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punsomkepvhanet ont os.
we are going to lose it.
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Vtǫtketok mēcakn owēs ’stowisen,
Even if they do work on it,
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punsomkepvrēs kowis.
I think we will lose it.
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Mowis hiyowat tat hiyowē ’stenpunahoyvkat
But now, like we are speaking to each other,
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naken este-hvtke em punvkvn rasohwikaken owat,
if they translate it back to English,
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mvt punkerraken owat,
if they learn from us,
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’stowusat vnicēs kowvyi[s].
I think it would help a little.
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Mowisen yv mēkusvpkv-cuko yv hiyowat nvcǫwust owēt ’stowisen,
But here at the church, there are only a few of us,
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’ste-cate enyvhiketvn yvhikąkēt [ow]ē, hę̄ren, hę̨̄rusen yvhikaken.
but we continue to sing Indian songs, and the songs are beautiful.
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Mowisen mv tat este punvyvkekot owēs ’stowisen,
Even if people don’t talk,
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’ste-cate enyvhiketvn kerrakēs, mv tat.
they will learn the Indian hymns.
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Mv mowof ’stowisen ehohsvkekon owat,
When that happens, if they at least don’t forget,
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orēn mv tat vnickvt hę̄ret owēs kowvyē[s].
I think that would really help.
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Meksekot owēs kict ok.
It’s in Mexico, he said.
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Ēkvnv, Semvnolvlke em ēkvnv ocēt owvtēt ont on.
There used to be Seminole land there.
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“Ocē monkehą?” makt oks.
“Would it still be there?” Is what he’s asking.
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Ohwen hvtą, “Estv mahēt owa? Kerrēt ohą?” cekict os.
And then, “Where exactly was it? Would he know?” is what he’s asking you.
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Hokvs, ’punayepvs.
Okay, you can talk.
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’Tv mahet?
Where?
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Ēkvnv, Meksekvlke em ēkvnv Semvnolvlket entvckvn emakvtēt ont on.
The land in Mexico, it was a part of Seminole land that was given to them.
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Monkv, mowisen hofonvtē,
But a long time ago,
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Kowahke kicakēn arvtēt ont os.
Kowahke (Wildcat), they called him, was there.
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Mowis mvn ena-lvstvlket ’svpēyvtē.
But they took black people with them.
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Mvn Mekseko Eagle Pass kicakat mvn hoyanat.
It’s past what they call the Mexico Eagle Pass.
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Meksekvlke em ēkvnv ofvn mvn resvpokvtēt ont os.
They settled on land in Mexico.
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Kowahke tat ena-lvstvlke ’svyēpvtēs.
Kowake took the black people.
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Mowisen ena-lvstvlke tat rvtetvn yacvkekot, matan vpokēpen.
But the black people didn’t want to return, they wanted to stay there.
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Kowahket hvtą ratvtēs.
Kowahke came back again.
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Yefulkepvhant owvtēt tis, hvtą, ’tvn mv mahen aret sonkt owvtēs.
He planned to return, but he passed away while in that area.
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’Tvn hopelhoyvtē tat kerrēskot os, mv tat.
Is it not known where he was buried at.
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Mowisen mvn owēcicen mvn ena-lvstvlke ’sayvtē
But because of him, the black people that were taken there
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mvn, mv tvlkus ak-vtelokakvtēt owēs.
were the only group that gathered and lived there.
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Monkv hiyowat tat Semvnolvlke kicakat ena-lvstvlke owakkv mvt pum ēkvnvt ont os.
So now, the Seminoles say that since they are black people, it is our land.
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Pokēpvtēt ont o[s].
It is probably gone.
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Pum estvlke vpēyvtēt owēs.
Our people went there.
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Rahecvketv kowakat ’stvmin likt ont owat, vpēyat resyicat hvtą rorihcet resyihcet.
They went to go see where [the land] was and came back.
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Orēn ena-lvstvlket pucase hakvkēpet onkv,
The black people have made strong claims on that land,
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’stit fettv fullakat, rem oricakat yacvkekot owemvts.
and when outsiders came, they didn’t like it.
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Makakēt owemvts.
That’s what they said.
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“Orēn [e]pussicakēt owēt on.
“They really did run us off.
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’Stonhkot ok, rvwētt owēmvts” makt onvyakemvts.
There was nothing we could do and we came back.” That’s what they said.
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Mowisen, ąyen “Stowen hvtą pucasvkē tē?” kont vkerrict owvyan.
But as time went on, I thought about how it could be reclaimed.
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Este Kickapoos kicakat tohfullakvtēt ont on.
The people they call Kickapoos went back and forth.
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Mv ’stvmin owat kerrvkēpekv, vm onayemvts.
They found out where it was, so they told me.
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Mowen “Ēkvnv mv taklikat puca- pucasvhanatsken owat, lvpkēn hiyowat mēcepaks cē!”
“The land that’s there, if you all want to reclaim it, do so right away.”
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Monkon owat, orēn pucasvkepvhanēt ont os.
If we didn’t, [the Kickapoos] were going to claim it.
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Makat vm onvyakemvts.
That’s what they told me.
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Mowisen nake ‘stowen mēcekot tayekv,
But there was nothing we could do,
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toknawv tis ocēkok, ‘svpēyē tayat, vhakv hayvlke tis kont.
we didn’t have enough money, to handle it, or attorneys.
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Ē omvlkvt ē ’sepuntvckepēt onkv.
There were just too many barriers for us.
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Naken hę̄ren ’stowekot tayen.
There was not much we could do.
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Hoyvnēpvtēt ont on.
So the deadline passed.
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Monkv, vkerricvyat mvn
When I think about it,
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’stowusen hvokēn hvwecahken,
we could have left it open.
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“Hiyowen mēcvhantsken owat, mēcepvs cē!” makakof,
When they said, “If you want to do this now, do it!”
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vpēyēkot tayen vhvoke tat akhottvkēpvtēt ont on.
we couldn’t go, so the door closed.
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Mowen vkerricit ē.
That’s why I think about it.
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Mowat omvlkv kerrvkot owisen, naken mahokekot owisen mv, mvtēkat,
I don’t know that much, but no one has said anything since that time.
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mvtvlkus mahen kērret owi[s].
That’s all I know about it.
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00:31:22,350 –> 00:31:28,761
Mowisen mvn ’sēnaoriceyat ēwikētt owimvts.
But that’s when I quit bothering with it.
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Hiyowat tat, ē pucasephoyvtēt owētok.
But now, they would have already claimed it.
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Kowet vkerricvyēt ē.
That’s what I think.
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Naket ’sēvnicvkē tayat kerrvkot owisen,
I don’t know what use we could have had with it,
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hiyowat tat, mvtvlkust os kowit mv kērrvyat.
but now, that’s all I know about it.
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Okay, owan mvto cem punayvyat.
Okay, well thank you for letting me speak with you.
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Enka. ’Punvkv hervkēn pum punahyetskes. Mvto.
All right. You spoke some good words. Thank you.
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