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Mucv-nettv ‘sakkonepke hayetvn mvn kowvhan’t owēs.
Today we are going to make ‘sakkonepke [a dish traditional made using cracked white hominy boiled with meat, but here using Cope’s dried corn instead].

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Heyv hompetv-hayvt mvt Elouise Harjo–Elouise Factor hiyowat mvt owēs.
Our cook is Elouise Harjo–she’s Elouise Factor now.

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Sasakwa vtēt owvtēt owēs.
She used to be from Sasakwa.

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Mowis hiyowat Shawnee likēt on,
But now she lives in Shawnee,

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mvn hompetv hayēt,
and now we’re going to cook,

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cemvhayvkvhan’t owēs, estowēt ‘sakkonepke hayetvt owat.
and we’re going to teach you all how to make ‘sakkonepke.

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Uh hiyowat punke okkohsēt,
And now we are going to wash our hands,

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hompetv etetakuecvkvrēs.
and then we will cook.

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‘Sēkvrpēckv oc’n owat?
Is there a towel?

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O, ocvyēt os.
Oh, I have one.

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Kvpe tvlkē tis owēs cē. M-hm.
It seems too soapy. M-hm.

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Vsv ‘sēkvrpēckv hvtkat tv?
What about that white towel over there?

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Hokvs cē!
Okay, we’re ready!

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Hiyowat. Vmvhayvs.
Now. Teach me.

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Hakkvn ohwit mv neha ‘svpahsit. M-hm. Hvmmehcit.
With a spoon I brown a little oil. M-hm. Like this.

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Um, mv–yv esnorickv um
Um, that–this pot um,

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mv sulkvhąnen hayvhantsken [ow]at,
if you are going to make a whole lot,

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yv mahen enrakkē ta[ye]t owv?
is one about this size right?

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Uh-huh, hvtą sulkēn hayvhanccen owat,
Uh-huh, and if you are going to make a lot,

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‘senrakkusēn. M-hm.
you need a bigger pot. M-hm.

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Mowen aktehhet.
Put them in.

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Hvtą ‘seteyamarēs, okcvnwv ton homucen vpahyit.
And I will stir it with salt, and I add pepper.

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‘Svkērkēcvkot owvyēt owēs.
I don’t measure.

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Mowisen okcvnwv mahekon owat, mēc[ec]cof, hvtą vpvyeccēs, cem eyackv.
But if it’s not salty enough, as you’re making it, you can add however much you want.

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‘Seteyahmit, hvtą […]
I mix it up, and again […]

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ohrahnit,
and then I cover it,

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vpaskvtēt on. M-hm.
let it brown some. M-hm.

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Vpeswv hvthvkē hak’n owat,
When the meat turns a little gray looking,

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mvn uewvn vpvyvhan’t owi[s].
then I’m going to add water.

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Mvn uewvn vpayvyof, mǫrket,
After I add water to it, it just boils,

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hvse-vkērkv hvmkat mahen or’n owat.
for about one hour.

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Yvt lvpkēn noret onkv, mvn akteharēs, momof.
This one [Cope’s dried corn] cooks real fast, so I’ll add that, as it cooks.

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Mvt vce kvrpe kih–kihocē
That dried corn, it’s called.

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Ehę̄, vce kvrpet ot o[s].
Yes, the dried corn.

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Mv, uh–nake tē?–ēcko owē owēt os. Ehę̄. Mvtes.
That, uh–what is it?–it seems like ēcko [dried yellow corn]. Yes. It is.

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Ehę̄, ēcko kvrpēhocvtē. M-hm.
Uh-huh, ēcko that was dried. M-hm.

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Ohwen yv tv, enhiyē kvncvpvhanēt owēt owv?
Then this, does the heat have to be lower?

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Mvn mēcvyēt ont owisen, hę̄ren hēce-mahvko,
I usually do that, but I can’t hardly see it.

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Kvncvpe-mahēn? M-hm, kvncvpē owvtēt on.
Lower? M-hm, leave it lower for a while.

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Uewv ‘sakcahnit, hvtą, enhvlwēcarēs. M-hm, m-hm.
After I add water to it, I will turn it up a little bit. M-hm, m-hm.

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Yv tv, talako ‘stonkon ‘sohlik’t owat owv?
What about these beans, are they doing all right?

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Mv talako, uh–nake tē?–tvlak-cate.
Those beans, uh–what is it called?–red beans.

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Oh, yv uewv?
Oh, this water?

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Sokhv ’lehvfe, uh-huh akpikē monks,
The ham hocks are already in there,

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Este Wvcenv fvccv alakat mvt Jack hocefkv talako ha[ye]t os.
The person from Virginia, his name is Jack, he’s making the beans.

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Hvtą uewvn ’sem akcvnvhan’t owis. Uh-huh.
Now I am going to add more water for him. Uh-huh.

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Heyvt uh tvlak-catet os.
This is red beans.

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Hvte nore-mahekot ont owisen, orēn.
Itʻs not quite done yet.

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Hę̄rvhanet, es–, es–, esmorket ont on.
It’s boiling real good.

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Mont hvtą yv, uh “lucv” kihcvhohkis, uh
And this, I almost said “turtle”, uh

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uh, sokhv-le-lvksv kicakhą?
uh, hog hoof, is that what we call it?

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Mv tot owv, “elaksv”, Elouise?
Is that it, “hoof”, Elouise?

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Sokhv ele,
Pig foot,

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uh, naken kicvkēt owa? Yv.
uh, what do we call it? This.

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‘Le-lvksv. ‘Le-lvksv? Mv tan mont owisen. Mv tv?
Hoof. Hoof? That’s what it is. What about that?

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Mowen–nak te?–rakko ‘le-lvksv.
And–what is it–horse hoof?

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Mv tokot os: sokhv.
That’s not it: pig.

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Uh, let’s see, naket ot owa?
Uh, let’s see, what is it?

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Kērretskv?
Do you know?

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Rakko, uh… You’re calling it rakko. Sokhv.
Horse, uh… You’re calling it horse. Pig.

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Rakko hompvkvhanēt os pukomhoyē witēs. Rakko hompet. Rakko mvo hompvyēt owēs kic’t o[s].
They might think we going to eat a horse. Eat a horse. We also eat horse, just saying.

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Ekuce. Ekuce.
Elbow. Elbow.

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Mvt ot owv? Sokhv ekuce. Oh. M-hm.
Is that it? Hog elbow. Oh. M-hm.

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Mv hvtą uh, hvckowv te? No, hvckowv.
Is that the shin? No, not the shin.

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Mvt hvcko. Naket hvcko?
That’s ear. What is the ear?

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Mvo homphoyēt ont owisen, mvn noricvyvt-sekot owēs.
They eat that, too, but I’ve never cooked that.

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Naket os kowak’ cvhosēs.
I forget what it is called.

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Nake tē? Mvhayv mv Kevin kiceyat mv maket owvnk cvhosēt os.
What is it? Our teacher Kevin knew what it was, but I forgot what it was.

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Mowan o? Uh-huh.
Really? Uh-huh.

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Uh-huh, kērretskv?
Uh-huh, do you know?

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Hvmken Mvhayuce–uh, Kērruce…That’s, mvtes, ele-toktuswv.
One of them, little teacher–uh, Kērruce…That’s it, ankle.

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Ele-toktuswv, uh-huh, sokhv ele-toktuswv, mvt owis.
Ankle, uh-huh, hog ankle, that was it.

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Hvthvkē hakofvn? M-hm.
When it turns kind of white looking? M-hm.

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Hiyowēn ‘svmvhahoyvtēt on.
This is the way that I was taught.

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Neha nvcowusen vcahnet, ‘svpaset, mak’t okhoyemvts.
Put just a little dab of oil in there, they used to say.

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‘Svpąsvtēt ot, hvthvkē hakof,
Then let it simmer, and whenever it gets whitish-looking,

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uewvn asakcahnet, morkę̄pvtēt on.
add water to it, and let it boil for a long time.

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Hofonēn mv hayetv kērretskemvte? M-hm. Oh.
Did you learn how to make that a long time ago? M-hm. Oh.

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Hvtą–
And–

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Ohrolopē palen oricvyat,
At the age of ten,

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mvn homp’tv-hakv ‘svmvhahoyvtēt [ow]ē[s].
I was taught how to cook.

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“Kērret owvs” cekihocen. M-hm.
“Better learn it!” they told you. M-hm.

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Mv vpeswv ‘stowan ‘sēvnicaket, mv tv?
What kind of other meat did they use?

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Uh, ēcko owat mvo, ‘sakkonepke hayaket–
For dried corn, too, and in making ‘sakkonepke–

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Sokhv tis, wakv tis, yvt hiyowat wakvt o[s]. Uh-huh.
Pork, beef, this one here is beef. Uh-huh.

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‘Stowan ceyac’n owat. M-hm. Hmm.
Whichever one you want. M-hm. Hmm.

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Mist’ eyącvkēt onkv, yv ēcko-hakē, you know.
People really like it, this dried corn, you know.

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‘Svpayit mvn noricin owat, pvpakēt owēs.
If I add it and cook that, they eat it up.

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Yeah, mv eskerkus’ owēn, hvtą, uh norihocēt onko?
Yeah, there’s a certain way they make it, isn’t there?

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Hvtą, cvmpē owēt ‘svm mowēt o[s].
And also sometimes it tastes kind of sweet to me.

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Mowēt owēs, yv. Cvmpē hakēt [ow]ē[s].
That’s the way it is, this one. It gets sweet.

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Mis, vce cvmpvt ok, mvn ohą? kont kerrvkot os.
But it’s because it’s sweet corn, I guess, but I don’t know.

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Yeah, yv–nake tē?–
This, uh, what is it?

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Vnet ‘svkarpē owēt kicit, naken kic’t ok[ec]ca?
I say it kind of dries up, and what did you say?

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‘Sv–, naken kic’t–? ‘Svpaset. Vnt ‘svpaset, vnet, ‘svkarpēt owē, mvo,…svpaskuehcet
‘Sv– what is it? Dries up.

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Mv– mv mahokēt os.
That’s what they say.

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Heyv hvthvkē hakvhanēt ont ont ok.
This meat is turning white.

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Mmm, fvmēcusēt os, vpeswv, wakv-peswv,
Mmm, it smells real good, the meat, the beef.

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herehąnēt onko? M-hm. Hę̄rus.
It’s going to be good, isn’t it? M-hm. It’s pretty.

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Hę̄rus kihocen. Ehę̄. Ehę̄.
Pretty, I say. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

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Pulvwēt ok. Mowis, hvthvkē haket a[ye]t owat os.
We’re hungry. But it’s turning kind of whitish-looking.

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Mvt morkvhanēt wikvhanēs. M-hm.
We are going to put a lid on it and leave it. M-hm.

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Iem vsosayin. Okecces.
I keep bothering it. You say.

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Onkv hiyowat mvn ‘towusat ‘sohliket, uh
And right now we are going to leave it on the stove a little longer,

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‘Sohliket, naken kic’t ohkitskv? ’Svpaset. Mowof, hvtą, uewvn.
Let it sit, and what did you say? “’Svpaset.” And then again add water.

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Uh-huh. ’Sohcahnet morkę̄pvtēt on.
Uh-huh. Pour it in and let it keep boiling.

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Yvn ‘spokēn yvn vpvyvhan’t owi[s].
I add this at the end.

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Vcēwesekon yv 15-20 minutes owusen norēpēt owēt ok. Mmm, m-hm.
Not long, it only cooks for 15-20 minutes. Mmm, m-hm.

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Onkv mv tvlako mv ‘stonkon ‘sohlikekv,
So those beans are doing okay over there,

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hiyowat ‘towusis kakehpēt, ‘tem punahoyēpvkēts. Enka.
so let’s sit down for a little bit and talk.

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Hiyowat ‘tem punahoyvhanēs.
Now we are going to talk to one another.

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Hokvs cē. Hiyowat uh, yv wakv-peswv tat esmorket,
Okay. This beef is boiling now,

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etetakēpekv, hiyowat uewv ‘sohcahnet, uewv ‘sohcahnet, uh,
and it’s ready, so now she’s going to pour in some water, she pours in the water,

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hvtvm, hvtvm uewv ‘sohcahnet.
again, she’s pouring water in.

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M-hm, escem eteyamvhanvyv? Uh-huh.
M-hm, do you want me to stir it for you? Uh-huh.

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Hiyowēn ‘teyamet.
Stir it like this.

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Fvmę̄cusēt os, vpeswv fvmę̄cus.
It sure smells good, the meat smells good.

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Hiyowēt noret owvcoks.
It’s cooking like this.

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Ohwen hvtvm, uewv ‘sohcanofvn mvn..
Again when she pours the water in…

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Uewv sulkvhanen owvk’n owat, hę̄rē tayon.
If you put enough water in there, it’s good.

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Nvcowen owvk’n owat, yv,
When you put less [water] in,

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uh-huh, vce aktehvkof,
uh-huh, when you put the corn in,

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cvwepēt owē[s]. Cekfē. Cekfē hahket. Uh-huh.
It absorbs it. Thick. It gets thick. Uh-huh.

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Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.

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‘Svkvr–naken kicvkēt ont owa?–
Dry–what do they say?–

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‘Svkvrpe-mahē hakēpen. Uh-huh.
It gets boiled down. Uh-huh.

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Onkv hiyowat tayē hahkē?
So is it enough now?

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Uh-huh, hiyowen morkvtēt on.
Uh-huh, now let it boil.

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Hvtą uewv ‘yacen owat,
If it needs more water,

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‘sohcahnet vcen vpvyarēs. M-hm.
I’ll pour it in and add the corn. M-hm.

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Onkv mvn hiyowēt ‘sohliket, esmorkę̄pvten, hvtvm, vkvtēceyvrēs. M-hm.
So now let it sit and boil a while, and we will have to watch it carefully. M-hm.

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Hokvs cē. Hiyowat pvrko ‘sakpoloken mvn hayvhan’t owēs.
Okay. Now we are going to make grape dumplings.

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Elouise hvtvm hayen, vmvhayen.
Elouise is again making it, teaching me.

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Vneu ‘towusat kerrvyēt ont owisen,
I know a little bit about it, too,

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vhvmkucen hayvyvtēt owēt on, pumvhayvhan’t os, hvtą.
but I’ve only made it once so she’s going to teach us again.

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Hēcet, cemeu kerrepvkvccvs.
Y’all can watch and learn too.

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Mvt pvrko opuswv? Pvrko opuswv. Uh-huh.
That’s grape juice? Grape juice. Uh-huh.

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Mv vhetecetvt owv? Uh-huh.
Should I turn the fire on? Uh-huh.

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‘Stowat owat kerrvko[s].
I don’t know which one.

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Yvt owvcukv? Mm, yopvt onkv.
Does it look like it’s this one? Mm, it’s the one in the back.

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Kvncvpvhanet, hiyowvhanen. Hiyowat. Uh-huh.
Low, about like this? Like that. Uh-huh.

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Hokvs cē. Mvn ‘sohliket, yv,
Now. Leave it [on the stove]

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‘sohliket, ‘smorke-mahvhan’t ohą, yv?
leave it on, until it’s really boiling?

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M-hm, m-hm, hiyowat hvtvm vsoklvn vpvyvhan’t owis.
M-hm, m-hm, now I’m going to add sugar to it.

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‘Skērkuecvko owēt owēt owētok.
I don’t normally measure.

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Aktēhikv, mont owisen ‘skērkuehcet owvhan’t owi[s], hiyowat, ‘svcvhahoyēkv.
I’ll put in there, but Iʻm going to measure it now, since they’re filming me.

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‘Skērkuecet.
She’s measuring it.

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Mēcvkot owēs mak’t os.
She doesn’t measure it, she said.

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Cvmpusēn puyac’t os. Uh-huh.
We want it sweet. Uh-huh.

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Eskērkuce nvcowen mak’t owisv? Uh, ennvrkvpv?
About how many cups did it say? Uh, half?

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Hmm, uh-huh, ‘sostat, ’svtocc–
Hmm, uh-huh, a fourth…

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‘Sesketv orvhąnusēn.
Almost a cup.

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Uh-huh, ‘sostat ’sestuccēnat, makēt owēt okhoyēs kowi[s].
Uh-huh, 3/4ths of a cup, is what they say, I think.

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Uh-huh, hakkv?
Uh-huh, spoon?

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Mvn ohwakkēt onko. Avmes cē. Mvto!
There it is laying there. Give it to me. Thank you.

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Ak-eteyamet maketok.
She says to stir it.

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Mv hiyowēn vsoklv aktēhkat mvn ‘teyamet,
We’ll stir the sugar that’s in there like this,

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ohwen hiyowat mv ‘sohlikofvn…
and now while it’s sitting there…

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Morkofvn. Uh-huh.
When it comes to a boil. Uh-huh.

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‘Sem akkonepvhan’t owis.
I’m going to crumble [the dough] in there.

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Hockvtēu vkērkēcvkot owēs. Ę̄ hiyowēn avtēhit.
I don’t measure the flour either. I just pour it in like this.

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M-hm, ‘stonkot owēs.
M-hm, that’s all right.

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‘Culvke tat, yowat nak ocvkekot onkv.
The elders didn’t have things like these [measuring utensils].

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Yv min ę̄ use-aket, nvcowē tat kont mvn mēcaket owvtēt onkv, mvn.
They just used something like this to know how much to use.

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Uh-huh. ‘Svcvwoskepēt on. Mvn on, ’scem ohlicis.
Uh-huh. I’m used to doing that. That’s where I’m putting it for you.

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Mvt–nake tē?–‘sakpoloke mvn hayvhan’t onccv, hiyowat? Ehę̄.
That–what is it?–are you going to make dumplings now? Yes.

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Mvt morkof, yvn mēcēpvyvtet aktēhvhan’t owi[s], morkof. Uh-huh.
When that [juice] boils, I’m going to have this done and I’ll put it in, when it boils. Uh-huh.

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Yvmv ‘towusat […]
Just a little bit […]

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Mv mahet tayēhą? Ehę̄.
Is that about enough? Yes.

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Mis, hiyowēn mēcvyēt owētok. Jennifer, cvhēceccv?
But this is how I do it. Jennifer, do you see me?

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Hiyowē ‘stowvyēt owēs.
I do it like this.

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Sulkē mēcvkot ont. Ę̄ nvcowusen mēcit.
I don’t make too much [at once]. I just do a few [at a time].

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Hiyowēn omv̨lkvt hockvtē, vhvn–nak tē?–
I mix it until all the flour is, uh–what is it?

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Pvrko svpvtē owē hakof? Ehę̄.
So [the flour] gets kind of grape-flavored? Yes.

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‘Cenhelvpkēt noricetv ceyac’n owat, hayetvn ceyac’n owat, yvt
When you’re in a hurry to make it, if you want to make it,

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mvn lvpkē mēcetvts, hiyowēn mēcvyat.
this is how to do it fast, like I’m doing.

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Mvn cenke ētan ‘seteyamēt mēcetskēt owv? Uh-huh.
You use your own hand to mix it up? Uh-huh.

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Hiyowēcvyēt, omv̨lkvn hockvtē use-t owis kowit ont owat,
I just keep doing like this, until I think I’ve used all the flour,

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hvtą ētin avtehhit, hvtvm mēcvyēt owēs.
And then I put more flour in and do it again.

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Hiy[ow]at aktehetv hiyowēn ‘sohwvkēcvyvtēt on.
Now I’ll set it there like this until it’s ready to put in.

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Morken owat, aktehvhan’t owi[s].
When it starts boiling, I’m going to put it in.

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Mv pvrko opuswv vpvyekot owetsken owat, mv
If you don’t add the grape juice to the flour,

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hvthvkēt owvrēs. Uh-huh.
they will just be white. Uh-huh.

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Ohwen hvtvm hockvtē hompvkat,
And when you eat the flour,

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mv kerkēt onko?
you can tell, can’t you?

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Hockvtē owēt–nake tē?–pvrko opuswv svpątusat onko? M-hm.
Like flour–what is it?–it won’t have a strong grape juice flavor, will it? M-hm.

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Hockvtēt on owat.
If it’s [just] flour.

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Mowisen mvn pvrko opuswvn mvn ‘sakcahn– hockvtē ‘sakcahnet mvn
But if you pour that grape juice in the flour,

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uh enfvmecē hvtą hompetv hę̄rusēt owēt owēs.
you can smell it, and it’s tasty to eat.

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Onkv mvo hiyowat mv
And now

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hvtetusen morkvhanet os, ‘towusis. Uh-huh.
the water is almost about to boil, in just a little bit. Uh-huh.

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‘Towusis. Vsv tv? Tvlako? Mv ‘meteyamvhanvyv? M-hm.
In a little bit. What about that over there? The beans? You want me to stir it? M-hm.

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Oweee hę̄rē ont, hvtą. M-hm. ’Stonko.
Oweeee, it looks good. M-hm. It’s all right.

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Cekfusē hak’t oweko, hiyowat? M-hm.
It’s getting a little thick now, isn’t it? M-hm.

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M-hm.
M-hm.

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Uehiyēn vpayvyēt owēs. Oh, mv omofvn, cekfē hayvkēt owv?
I add the hot water to it. Oh, is that how you make it thick?

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Vneu mv talak-cate haye-mahvkot os.
Me, I donʻt hardly cook red beans.

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Vneu mv cekfē cvyacēt on,
Me, I want my juice to get thick,

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vn monko tayēt os.
but it won’t get thick for me.

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Owisen hiyowat, vmvhayen.
But now she’s teaching me.

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Kerrehpis, nak ‘stowēcēt cekfē hayetvt owat, mvo.
I’ve learned how to make it thick.

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Estǫwusat takēcin owat,
When I make some,

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uh-huh–nak tē?–bacon grease ‘svkērrit onkv, mv ‘stowusat vpayvyēt owēs, hvtą,
uh-huh, what is it?–I save bacon grease, so I add just a little bit of that too,

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yv tvlakon noricin owat.
when I’m cooking these beans.

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Hokvs cē. Hiyowat hvtvm uh
Okay. Now again

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yv pvrko opuswv mvn morkof kihcēkv, uh
we had said to wait for the grape juice to come to a boil,

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hiyowat mv ‘sakpoloke mvn aktehvhan’t os.
so now she’s going to put the dumplings in.

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‘Sakpoloke mv uh pvrko opuswv ‘seteyvmkēn hahyet.
She’s made the dumplings with the grape juice stirred in.

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Heyv pvrko opuswv mǫrkusēt owvhanēt ǫhą? M-hm.
Is this grape juice supposed to be boiling hot? M-hm.

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Ę̄ morket mvn ohmormoyof.
When it’s just boiling rapidly.

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Mvn mormoyen kic’t okhoyēt owv? Morket, morket, uh-huh.
Do they say “mormoyen”? Boil, boil, uh-huh.

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Hvtą mēcvhan’t owi[s]. Vpvyvhan’t owvyv? M-hm.
I’m going to do it again. Shall I add it? M-hm.

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Hockvtē hvtą opuswv vpahyet.
She’s again added the juice to the flour.

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Mvt mēcet, ąyen mvt cekfvhanē haken.
She does that and after a while it’s going to get thick.

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Mv mowē mēcetskofvn, mvn uh
When you do it like that,

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ēme tat mv hiyowē esmorkat, cekfē hakepēt ǫhą? Ehę̄, mowvrēs.
when it keeps boiling, does it get thick by itself? Yes, that’s it.

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Heyvt uh talak-cate, mv sokhv ele owē owat,
This uh red beans, and what looks like a hog foot,

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akpihkeccē[yisē] mv norepēt os, mv tv.
the one you had put in there, it’s cooked.

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Ohwen mv ‘setehompvhaneyat, uh vloso mvn hayvhan’t os.
And we are going to make rice to eat with it.

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Ohwen vloso mvn esnorickv aktehhet, uekvsvppen ‘sohcvnkēt ont os. Ohwen hiyowat tat, mvn.
Then put the rice into the pan, and cold water has been put in it. And then now.

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Uh, ‘mohrahnet owvhanet owvcok’t os.
Uh, it looks like she’s going to put a lid on top of it.

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Ohwen ‘smorkvhan’t owv, hiyowat? Uh-huh.
And it’s going to boil now? Uh-huh.

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‘Sem etehoskehpv?
Did they get mixed up?

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‘Mohrvnkv ‘stowat entayvkekot onkv.
Which of the lids, they don’t fit.

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Ohranvkot owēs.
I don’t put a lid on it.

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Hiyowēt nor’n owat, hiyowēt onkv. Norēpof, ohranvyēt owē[s].
When it’s cooking like this, it’s like this. When it’s done cooking, I cover it.

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Ohwen hvtvm uh, wakv peswv-isē mv, hiyowat esmorkę̄pet ‘sohliket norētt owvcok’t ont on.
And also the beef is now sitting just boiling away and is looking done.

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Norepvhąnusēt os, hiyowat.
Now it’s almost about done.

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Ont on, hiyowat mvn ‘sakkonepke hayvhan’t ohkēkv.
Since it is, we said we are going to make ‘sakkonepke.

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Um, vso–nake tē?–vce? Uh-huh. Vce, mvn, yvn.
Um–what is it?–corn? Uh-huh. Corn, there, here.

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Aktehhet hiyowēcēt?
Put it in like this?

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M-hm, omvlkvn. Eshokkolen yv? Ehę̄.
M-hm, all of it. Both of these? Yes.

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Vce kvrpe kic[ec]cēyisē? M-hm.
The dried corn that you mentioned? M-hm.

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Mvn mowē mēceyof mvn, “‘sakkonepke” kicvkēt ont os.
When we make it like that, we call it ‘”sakkonepke”.

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Ohwen mowē mvn hiyowēt aktehehpēt
And now that we’ve put it in there,

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‘seteyahmen, ohrahmet, ‘mohrahmet, uh…
she’s going to stir it and cover it, uh…

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Ohrvnkv tat sonkehpvttis.
The lid is missing.

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Mvt owisv?
Was it that one?

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Uh tvpeksat t owiskv.
It was the flat one.

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Em estohwa?
What happened to its [lid]?

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Uh ‘mohrvnkv tepeksat.
The flat lid.

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Uh hehcatskv?
Did y’all see it?

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Hmm.
Hmm.

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Hmm…’Stowēcvkēpēs?
Hmm…What did they do with it?

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Yv tv? Mvn em ēsakhą? Mvn em ēs’t os kowis.
How about this one? What if we take it off of that? I think it’s taken from that one.

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Mv tokot owiskv. Mv halo-isē ‘mohrvnkv tvpeksēt owis.
It wasnʻt that one. It was the tin one with a flat lid.

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Huh-uh, mv tokot os. Cvnak’t os. ‘Svlak’t ohwi[s]. Uh-huh, yv enake?
Huh-uh, that’s not it. It’s mine. I brought it. Uh-huh, it’s this one’s [lid]?

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Hiyowat ‘mohrvnkv vsv ‘sokkoskvn akpikvt tis.
Now the lid had been in the sink.

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Eshehcēkv, hiyowat uh ‘sakkonepke mvn ohrvnkēt uh,
We found it, so now the ‘sakkonepke is covered and uh,

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’smorket ‘sohliken.
it’s going to sit and boil.

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Hiyowat cvtv-hakv. Cvtv-hakv mvn hayetvn kerrvhan’t owis. Vntat kerrvkot ont owis,
Now the blue bread. I’m going to learn how to make blue bread. I donʻt know how,

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vmvhayvhan’t os. Vneu kerrvhan’t owis!
but she’s going to teach me. I’m going to learn, too!

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Onkv mv enhvteceskv mv vce enfolotkvt ont owv? M-hm. Kihocēt ont os: “vce enfolotkv”.
So first, is it cornmeal? M-hm. That’s what it’s called: “cornmeal”.

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Heyvt uh ‘sholattēckv owat enfolotkv vpvkepvtēn nēs’t oweyvnks.
We bought this cornmeal with the blueing already in it..

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Nake tē? Jack kihocat mvt nēs’t owvtēs punnehset,
What is it? The one called Jack bought it for us,

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hayetvn kerrvhan’t owēs.
and we’re going to learn how to make it.

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Owen–oh, Jennifer mit owvt[e]t owvcok[s] kowis.
And–oh, it was Jennifer instead, I think.

284
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Owisen uh, mv Hardesty?
But that uh, Hardesty?

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Hardesty neskv-cuko likat Shawnee kihocat mvn ocēt on, mvn nēs’t oweyvnks.
Hardesty grocery store in Shawnee has it, and we bought it there.

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Onkv mvn cvtv-hakv tis hayetv ceyacak[e]n owat, mvn
So if y’all need to make some blue bread,

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nēsvkēt owvnk’t ont on, cem onvyak’t okvkis.
that’s the place to but it, and I’m telling you all.

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Hiyowat ‘svlicēcepvs [‘svlilēcepvs] cē!
Now go ahead and get started!

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Estowēt–yvn vtēhkuce mvn ceyac’t owv? Uh-huh.
How–do you need this little bowl? Uh-huh.

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‘Stensetefehcēt witēs. I know. Yv.
We might melt their [dish]. I know. This one.

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Owes, holattē hakētt onko? M-hm.
It is, it’s turning blue, isn’t it? M-hm.

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Vpvlatis. Vpvlvtkv.
I’m throwing it away. The trash.

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‘Sohhvfvpe-mahekon kont owvkēt onkv. M-hm.
We don’t want it too cluttered. M-hm.

294
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Holattē hakētt os. Hehcvs cē. M-hm.
Itʻs getting blue now. Look. M-hm.

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Vloso mvt ‘smorket,
The rice is boiling,

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nake– ‘soh– ‘sohsmorket– ‘sohpvlatkē hakēt owētok.
it usually boils over and starts spilling out.

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Enkvncvpēc’t owvcoks.
He is lowering the flame.

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Hvtvm mēcvhanet–yv cem entayehpv, hiyowat?
Now she’s going to make it–is yours ready now?

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Tayē tayen? Uh-huh.
Should that be enough [water]? Uh-huh.

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Oh, estonhkowvyvtē mvn uh–nake tē?– kvrpat mvn ‘sēvnicet.
Oh, it should be all right–what is it?–using the dry area [that’s left].

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Orēn hiyētarētok [hiyēt owvrētok].
It’s going to be hot.

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Omv̨lkvn mēcvyat kerrvkot ont owisen, yv.
I don’t know if I did it all here [all mixed together].

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M-hm. Yv tayē ont os kowi[s].
M-hm. I think this will be enough.

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Hvmmēcvkof, ’seteyvmkepvrēs.
When we do it like this, it will all mix in.

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Hvtą mix-vhanccv, yv? M-hm.
Do you want to mix this again? M-hm.

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Hiyowat mv cvtv-hakv uh hayetv etetakuec’t ohwēs.
Now we have prepared the blue bread mix.

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Yv enfolotkvt on mv ‘sholattēckv vpvkat ont on.
This is the cornmeal with the blueing already in it.

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Mv hiyowat uh poloksvkusowēn hayet,
Now we are going to make them kind of round,

312
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‘sakpoloke hahoyvnton owē mvn mēcvhan’t owēs.
like they used to make dumplings, that’s how we’re going to do it.

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Hvmmēcet. Uewv kvsvppe, hiyēt on owat, hvmmēcet.
Like this. [Using] cold water. If it’s hot, do it like this.

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Enrakke tayē tayv, kot rakkē te? M-hm. Ta[ye]s. Kot cųtkusv?
Is the size about right, or too big? M-hm. Just right. Or is it too small?

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Rakrvkēn hayephoyis owēt owētok!
Some people make them real big!

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Polǫksus owēn owephoyēt owētok. Ę̄ hiyowēcvs cē.
They usually make them perfectly round. Just do it like this.

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Vcewē– ‘stit hę̄rus mahkekot’n os kicv.
Taking time–Nobody’s going to say they’re pretty, just saying.

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‘Stit hǫlwakat makekot, homipet– hompvrē[s].
Nobody’s going to say it’s ugly. It will be eaten.

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Hvmmēcet, poloksicet.
Do it like this, making it round.

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Hvmmēcet, hiyowē poloksē owē.
Do it like this, round like this.

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Owen ue-hįyen heyv akpiket.
We are putting it into hot water

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Cvtv-hakv mvn hayvyvtē-s–, hayvyvtē-sekot on–vhvmkucvn hayimvtisen, mvn uh hę̄rat vm vwahemvtok.
Iʻve never made blue bread before–I made it just one time, but it really fell apart.

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Ont omen, hąyvyvtē-sekot owēt ont o[s], mvn.
I’ve never made it since then.

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Yvn hayet–nake tē?–Elouise mvt pumvhayvrēs.
Making it here–what is it?–Elouise will teach us.

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Onkv vmvhayet, onkat omvlkeyat pumvhayvrēs kont ohkvyan mvn.
So she will teach me, or she will teach all of us, as I was thinking.

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Ēmeu kerrepekot on mak’t ok’t owisen, mvn
Then she said she doesn’t know how to make it either, but

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nake tē?–hahoyē hvtą em onayet kihocvtē,
what is it?–she was told how to make it,

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uh ēmeu yv hiyowēt aktēhat, yv
uh when she made them and was putting them in the water like this,

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em vwahēpvtēt on mak’t okes.
they fell apart, too, she said.

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Vneu vm mowen wik’t owimvts.
It did that to me, too, so that’s why I quit.

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“Hoktvlē ‘Heyvt owv mǫrke-mahekon ocvt’t os’ cvkicemvts” kec’t okvnk[s]. M-hm.
She said an older woman told her that her water wasn’t hot enough. M-hm.

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“Morkēn owvhanetskvtēs” kihocen.
It was supposed to be boiling, is what she was told.

335
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Onkv hiyowat herąkusv? M-hm.
So are they beautiful now? M-hm.

336
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Hiy[ow]at cekerrētt os.
Now you’ve learned.

337
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Owvcok[s] kowis cē.
I think so.

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Uh-huh, cvccuste, uh Janet kicet,
Uh-huh, my daughter, named Janet,

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mvt cvtv-hakv hoktvlēt ‘mvha[ye]t owemvts.
an older woman taught her [how to make] blue bread.

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Fannie Barnett kihocen, este-Maskoke hoktē,
Fannie Barnett, a Muscogee woman,

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uh hayetv em onahyet owemvtan
told her how to make it,

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ēme tat hvteceskv hayat hę̄ren hayēpē hak’t owvnk[s].
the very first time, and she has made them perfectly.

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Owen vnkoslēt owvnk’t owisen,
She beat me in cooking,

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hiyowat vneu kerrētt owis.
but now I’ve learned, too.

345
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Onkv hiyowat…Hokvs cē! Esmorkēt hakētt owvcok[s].
So now… Now it’s ready! It’s beginning to boil.

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Hokvs cē, hiyowat.
It’s ready, now.

347
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Cvtv-hakv tat hahyēs cē!
We made blue bread!

348
00:24:25,361 –> 00:24:28,723
Omvlkvhanet hompetv takētt os kowis. M-hm.
Almost all the food is cooked now, I think. M-hm.

349
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Owisen uh, mvnettakat mvt hompetv avtehaket etetakuecak’n owat,
But if the young ones get ready to dish out the food,

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hompepvkvrēs.
we will eat.

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352
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Hokvs cē! Hiyowat mv hompetv cvtv-hakv ton,
Okay now, we have made blue bread,

353
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uh ‘sakkonepke– wakv-peswv ‘sakkonepke ton,
dried corn– dried corn with beef,

354
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talak-cate sokhv ‘le hvfe lelposwvlv–, lokosko– [‘le-toktuswv],
and red beans with ham hocks–

355
00:24:54,654 –> 00:24:58,142
cvhosēt ont on, mv naket owa kerrak[s]: “ankle”.
I forget, I don’t know what that is: “ankle”.

356
00:24:58,142 –> 00:25:02,757
Mvn, uh mon takehpen, hvtą vlosv.
And it’s ready, and the rice too.

357
00:25:02,757 –> 00:25:09,830
Owen hvtą hvnket hoktē mvnę̄ttusēt yv uh taklikucen mvn ha[ye]t os, hehcvs!
And we have the biscuits that the young lady made, look!

358
00:25:09,830 –> 00:25:14,843
“Hompetv-hayv hę̄rēt owvhanat, mvt owēs” maket okhoyvnts.
She’s going to be a good cook, they used to say.

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Tvlak, asohwvkēcis. Ohwen hiyowat… Vlosv avtehit, vlosv.
I laid the bowl of beans down. I also put the rice in, the rice.

360
00:25:21,163 –> 00:25:25,133
Mv tan avtehhit. M-hm.
I’ll dish it out first. M-hm.

361
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362
00:25:26,474 –> 00:25:35,629
Hokvs cē. Yvt “vlose”? “Vloso”. “Vlose” kicēt owēs. “Vloso”
Okay. This is “vlose” (rice). “Vloso”. We say “vlose”. “Vloso”.

363
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Cehocefkv owēt, Elouise. Vloso. Vlose.
Just like your name, “Elouise”. “Vloso”. “Vlose”.

364
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Hiyowat yv talak-cate mvn avtehvhan’t os.
Now these are red beans that she’s going to dish out.

365
00:25:45,833 –> 00:25:55,720
Cekfēt hę̄rē ont cenhahką!
It got nice and thick for you!

366
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367
00:25:57,270 –> 00:26:01,340
Tvlak-cate. Mv.
Red beans. There.

368
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Ele sakp– uh, ‘sakhorkētt owis.
The ham hock–uh, it was boiled in with it.

369
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On heyvt uh–nake tē?–Wakv-peswv. M-hm. Ēcko.
And this is–what is it?–Beef. M-hm. Dried corn.

370
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Ēcko uh, wakv-peswv ‘setehorkēt os.
The beef and dried corn are boiled together.

371
00:26:19,405 –> 00:26:26,141
Ēcko wakv-peswv ‘setehorkat, ‘setenorkat.
Dried corn and beef boiled together, cooked together.

372
00:26:26,141 –> 00:26:31,985
Hiyowat mvt tvlak-cate, I mean tvlak-cate: cvtv-hakv.
Now the red beans, I mean the blue bread.

373
00:26:31,985 –> 00:26:35,759
Uh enhvteceskv ‘sēmvhayeyat, hayeyat.
Our first time practicing it and making it,

374
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Herąkusēt. Herąkusēt os. Uh-huh, herąkusēt os cē.
They’re beautiful. They’re beautiful. Uh-huh, they’re so beautiful!

375
00:26:40,625 –> 00:26:46,817
Linda! Tayē[s]. Uh-huh, vneu, cēmeu.
Linda! They’re right. Uh-huh, me too, and you as well.

376
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Vmvha[ye]ccen–I know now. Uh-huh, vmvha[ye]ccen, hvtą ‘stowet ohoyemvts maketsken, ha[ye]t owēs.
You taught me–I know now. Uh-huh, you taught us, how it was made, and now we made it.

377
00:26:53,618 –> 00:26:58,529
M-hm. Mvts cē.
M-hm. That’s good.

378
00:26:58,529 –> 00:27:01,308
Heyvt cvtv-hakvt os cē.
This is blue bread.

379
00:27:01,308 –> 00:27:10,420
M-hm, hiyowat mvt… Mv tv? Oh, hvtą hvnkē, here-mahat.
M-hm, now that… What about that? Oh, one more, and the best one.

380
00:27:10,420 –> 00:27:20,419
Asēsetskehą? Pvrko ‘sakpoloke, mvn. Yv ‘scem akohyin, estowusat.
Can you get that one? Grape dumplings, that one. Let me move this over a little.

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382
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383
00:27:26,255 –> 00:27:33,104
Yvt, pvrko ‘sakpoloke, pvrko afke, mv.
This is grape dumplings, grape crumbles.

384
00:27:33,104 –> 00:27:38,659
‘Sakpoloke mvt lopockvkusēt mvt afke owē hakēs.
The dumplings are small, so it get’s more like crumbles.

385
00:27:38,659 –> 00:27:42,696
Mowis, pvrko ‘sakpoloke mvo kicvkēs. M-hm.
But they call it grape dumplings, too. M-hm.

386
00:27:42,696 –> 00:27:47,482
Hiyowat mvt, mucv-nettv hompetv-hayeyat, mvt os cē!
Now today, that is the food we cooked today!

387
00:27:47,482 –> 00:27:49,038
Kerrēpet fullepvkvccvs,
You all should learn as you go about,

388
00:27:49,038 –> 00:27:53,526
etenhǫmpet, estofis etenhǫmpet, ‘tem ahēret, ‘tencaket,
eat together, always eat with one another, like one another, care for one another,

389
00:27:53,526 –> 00:27:58,258
‘tenokēcet, fullēt owvkvccvs. Mvt hę̄re-mahēt owēs.
and love one another. It’s good that way.

390
00:27:58,258 –> 00:28:00,781
Hompaks ci! Hiyowat.
Y’all come eat! Now!

391
00:28:00,781 –> 00:28:08,257
Ēhę̄. Mvto, pum vnicetskat. Hvtą ‘ten noricepvkvrēs. M-hm.
Yes. Thank you for helping us. Let’s cook together again. M-hm.

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